Seymour Hersh in conversation with Afshin Rattansi in 2018 and followed by an interview with Tariq Ali from 2016.
Source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3ZkL9Soos&ab_channel=GoingUndergroundonRT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIBxGm08KY8&ab_channel=TeleSUREnglish
