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Ammar Ali Jan is a Pakistani political activist, academic, and author. He is founder and general secretary of Haqooq-e-Khalq Party, also a member of Progressive International.

Adeem Suhail is an assistant professor in social anthropology at Franklin and Marshall College.

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